VALID VALID EXPLANATION TO WWW.NARAYANACONSCIOUSNESS.NET
Prelude to this paper:
I recently received comments on my paper entitled “Who is Kalki- Avtaar?” The comments came from the members of www.narayanaconsciousness.net. In one of their comment they offered me seven propositions (actually six because the last one was an invitation to visit their website) seeking “Valid Explanations” to them. Therefore, By the Grace and Will of Allah I tender the answers to all their enquiries. Another noteworthy point is that they have not touched to any of my arguments made in “Who is Kalki – Avtaar?” yet they leaped to propose me seven propositions.
Note: I have personally not researched this group and their website. So, I cannot write much about them at this instant. In due course of time I may have to study them.
So here are the 7 arguments they commented:
(1)The Holy Koran says umpteen number of times that Allah is able to do all things. Why then do you doubt that he cannot and does not come in human form?
(1) In the first place, I doubt whether Allah will/can do all things. Nowhere, does the Quran says that Allah will do everything. The complete and correct understanding to all such related verses is that ALLAH CAN DO ALL THINGS WHICH HE OPTS FOR or ALLAH CAN DO ALL THINGS WHICH HE LIKES TO etc. He would not opt to do anything which is against his majesty or which will seize His divinity. I can give you list of things which Allah CANNOT do, for instance, He cannot be unjust, liar etc. According to your argument I may say (like a lawyer) “Hey! Allah is able to do all things then why can’t He lie, why can’t He be unjust to a party. After all He is an OMNIPOTENT GOD, isn’t He?” Think on this.
(2) Prophet Mohamad (pbuh) went on a journey to heaven on ‘burakah’ and saw Allah seated on a throne through the veils that surrounded him. He found a prayer which is now recited as ‘Khanjil-Arsh’ written on the throne of Allah. Do you deny this?
What is the point of the argument here? If your argument is that Mohammad, peace be upon him, saw Allah sitting on the Throne in a Human form. And secondly, your inquiring me whether I “deny it” or not. Then, yes, I do deny it. Because Mohammad, peace be upon him, has NEVER seen Allah ever in his life keep aside seeing Allah in human form (God forbid). As a matter of fact no(Human being) one has ever seen Almighty God, “NO VISION CAN GRASP HIM but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension yet is acquainted with all things.” (Holy Quran 6:103) Furthermore, mother Ayesha was very stringent on this particular issue, for, according to her honor a person claiming that Mohammad, peace be upon him, has seen Allah is a LIAR:
Sahih Al-Bukhari, 6.378:
Narrated Masruq:
I said to `Aisha, “O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad SEE his Lord?” Aisha said, “What you have said makes my hair stand onend ! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, he is a liar: WHOEVER TELLS YOU THAT MUHAMMAD SAW HIS LORD, is a LIAR.” Then Aisha recited the Verse: ‘No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well−Acquainted with all things.’ (6.103)
(3) Your quotes from Hindu Scriptures seem erudite, but they are not a thorough study. There are many other prophecies which ‘Kalki Avatar’ must fulfill. He must be a person who had gone to Simhala Dweepa (Ceylon) and come back from there to India with children. He must have had his abode on the outskirts of River Tamaraparanee. There are many other prophecies which he must fulfill. Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) did not fulfill the prophecies which are mentioned above. These prophecies are mentioned in Kalki-Puranam and Srimad Bhagawatham.
Yes there is a prophecy in scriptures that Kalki would be born in Sambhala. And that is where Muhammad was born, peace be upon him. Sambhala means a place of serenity, peace and security. Now, Mohammad, peace be upon him was born in Makkah, which is also called Dar – ul – Aman which, astonishingly, also means a place of serenity and peace.
(4) The Hindu Scriptures nowhere say that God cannot come in human form. Please don’t quote the words of any religious leader if their thoughts are not in consonance with the revealed scriptures of all religions. They may be sincerely mistaken. The Geetha which is acclaimed to be the essence of the Vedas and which is also called as the fifth veda says that God does come in human form. Refer Geetha Ch 9:11 and 4:7-8.I would like to draw attention to a couple of points you made in your argument number (4).
• I should quote from scriptures and not from any “religious leader” because, as you fairly reasoned that their thoughts may not be in “consonance with the revealed scriptures.” So let me assure you that I would ONLY quote from ‘revealed scriptures’. I could then expect you to concord with those ‘revealed scriptures’.
• Secondly, you implied the authority of Vedas, for, you wrote, “The Geetha which is acclaimed to be the essence of the VEDAS and which is also called as the FIFTH VEDA”. So, I would try to quote Vedas for you where ever possible.
At a number of Places in authoritative Hindu Scriptures it has been implied that GOD ALMIGHTY CANNOT CONDESCEND TO HUMAN FORM. This fact can be easily deduced from Hindu scriptures if read in conjunction with myriads of verses dispersed in various Hindu scriptures. I will touch a few of them to prove my case.
It is mentioned in Svetasvatara Upanishad, Adhyaya(Chapter) 4, Shloka(Verse) 19,
“Na tasya pratima asti” “There is no likeness of him”.
“nainam urdhvam na tiryancam na madhye na parijagrabhat na tasya pratima asti yasya nama mahad yasah”
“There is no likeness of him whose name is great glory”.
(The principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 736 & 737 and in sacred books of the east Volume 15, the Upanishad, part II, page 253)
I may safely deduce that God cannot incarnate because if He does then He would walk earth with millions of “LIKENESS” around Him. Millions with same pair of eyes, ears etc.
As the Quran also rightly describes this attribute of Allah:
“There is nothing whatever like unto Him” (Holy Quran 42:11)
Furthermore, contrary to the notion of God (descending) in Human form the Upanishads proclaim that those who “know” him formless (i.e. through Heart and Mind) are successful. Exactly, as the Muslims believe in Him. As we read:
In Svetasvatara Upanishad, Adhyaya(Chapter) 4, Shloka(Verse) 20:
“na samdrse tishati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam”
“HIS FORM CANNOT BE SEEN, NO ONE SEES HIM WITH THE EYE”
“nasamdrse tishati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam. Hrda hrdistham manasa ya enam, evam vidur amrtas te bhavanti”
“His form is not to be seen; no one sees him with the eye. Those who through heart and mind know him as abiding in the heart become immortal”.(The principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 737 & in sacred books of the east Volume 15, the Upanishad part II, page 253)
Note carefully that God Almighty CANNOT be seen with Eye. A point to ponder here is if God came to earth in Human form then He ought to be perceived through Human Eyes. Nevertheless, the scriptures make it clear that one cannot see Him through Human eyes. That means He did not and cannot (con) descend to earth corporeal.
A step further I sincerely fail to fathom how Hindus who appeal so much to Bhagwat Gita 4:7-8 discount Yajurveda 40:8 with equal fervor.
[Side remark:- For one more fact, Hindu scholars rate the Vedas under “Shruti” classification of Hindu Canon, however, Bhagwat Gita is classified under “Smriti”. Now, the “Shrutis” are considered to be revealed scriptures from God and the “Smritis” are writings of scholars NOT A REVELATION FROM GOD. “Smritis” are not considered to be of divine origin as with “Shrutis”. Subsequently, the “Shrutis” hold a degree higher in authority over the “Smritis”. And the Vedas is a part of “Shruti” canon. On the flip, we all know that Bhagwath Gita was penned by Maharishi Vyaas].
Now here is what “revealed” word of God has to say:
“He hath attained unto the bright, BODILESS, woundless, sinewless, the pure which evil hath not pierced. Far-sighted wise, encompassing, he self existent hath prescribed aims as propriety demands unto the everlasting years”
(Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph I.H. Griffith page 538)
(5) The words of Surah Iklaas has confounded many muslims. This Surah describes the Absolute Aspect of Allah. But Allah also has a relative level which he assumes to communicate with human beings. The ‘Miharaj’ flight of Nabi and what he saw is known to all muslims. Was Nabi telling a lie when he says that he saw Allah seated on a throne?
I can read at least two serious allegations on Islam and Muslims (may be in sincere ignorance).
Firstly, I would like to learn from you how “the words of Surah Iklaas has confounded many muslims”.
Secondly, Nabi Mohammad, peace be upon him, was not lying about “Meraj”. But it is the people who claim that Mohammad ,peace be upon him, saw Allah are LIARS:
Sahih Al-Bukhari, 6.378:
Narrated Masruq:
I said to `Aisha, “O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad SEE his Lord?” Aisha said, “What you have said makes my hair stand on end! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, he is a liar: WHOEVER TELLS YOU THAT MUHAMMAD SAW HIS LORD, is a LIAR.” Then Aisha recited the Verse: ‘No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well−Acquainted with all things.’ (6.103)
(6) The Koran categorically says that none is worthy of worship except Allah. This is perfectly true. We accept this. But does not the same Koran say that Allah asked the Angels to worship Adam? Because Iblis demurred through pride was he not banished from Allah’s presence? What is the explanation? If no one should be worshipped except Allah, why was Adam worshipped by the Angels. This seems to go against the theory of One God. Can you offer a valid explanation.
Let me begin with a benevolent thanks to your acceptance, for you wrote, “The Koran categorically says that none is worthy of worship except Allah. This is perfectly true. We accept this.” After avowing this True monotheistic concept you again retarded to Polytheism when you tried to reason that Angels were mandated to WORSHIP Adam, peace be upon him; proving that there are more than One who are worthy of worship, for instance, Allah and Adam in this case! So, it would be only fair for you to reconsider “Categorical Koranic Monotheism” when I would prove you, inshallah, that Allah never asked Angels to worship Adam, peace be upon him. Let me remind you once again that you accept the truthfulness of Koranic monotheism i.e. none is worthy of worship except Allah, nevertheless, you have reservations for Adam was WORSHIPPED by Angels under the command of Allah. That was what you wrote. So kindly reconsider your faith if my explanation helps you in it.
VALID EXPLANATION:
The problem with majority of non-muslims is that when they try to understand Islam they seek materials, books etc written by orientalists or critics or Islamophoboes or Hate mongers. I cannot understand why sincere seekers like you cannot find books written by Muslim scholars, or Qur’an translated by Muslim Scholars. ONE SHOULD TRY TO LEARN ISLAM FROM MUSLIMS (Scholars) NOT FROM ORIENTALISTS. Because there is not a translation on Earth by any Muslim Scholar who has translated Qur’anic verse to mean that Allah ordained Angels to worship Adam, peace be upon him. ADAM WAS NEVER WORSHIPPED BY ANY ANGEL! Here are a few MUSLIM translations. Pay care whether Allah ordains Angels to worship Adam or otherwise:
Qur’an 2:34
YUSUF ALI:And behold We said to the angels: “Bow down to Adam”; and they bowed down not so Iblis he refused and was haughty he was of those who reject Faith.
ASAD: And when We told angels, “Prostrate yourselves before Adam!” – they all prostrated themselves, save Iblis, who refused and gloried in his arrogance: and thus he became one of those who deny the truth.
As is evident from the above quotations that Allah never decreed worship of Adam on Angels. He ordered His angels to BOW or PROSTRATE to Adam. There was/is a difference between BOWing and WORSHIPPING. This BOWING of angels to Adam was bowing to show respect – respect to Allah’s best creation – The Humans - whose Father happens to be Adam, peace be upon him – The first Human. Once again the bowing commanded to angels was a bowing to show respect not worship. As Malik rightly writes in his commentary:
When We ordered the angels: “Prostrate before Adam IN RESPECT, “they all prostrated except Iblees(Shaitan) who refused in his arrogance and became a disbeliever.
If you are contemplating to respond that is not bowing and prostration postures of worship in Islam, then, I would say yes. BUT, they became postures of worship only in the ministry of Mohammad, peace be upon him. During the ministry of earlier prophets prostration was considered to be a part of showing respect. For instance, Jacob (Yaqob), peace be upon him, prostrated to his son Joseph (Yusuf), peace be upon him along with his (other) sons:
“And he raised his parents high on the throne (of dignity) AND THEY FELL DOWN IN PROSTRATION (all) before him…” (Holy Qur’an 12:100)
Yusuf Ali writes in his commentary that this prostration offered by Jacob, peace be upon him, to Joseph, peace be upon him was a token of respect NOT worship:
“Certainly metaphorically: probably also literally…To show his high respect for his parents, Joseph made them sit on a throne of dignity. On the other hand, his parents and his brothers, all performed the ceremony of prostration before Joseph in recognition of his supreme rank in Egypt under the Pharaoh…The ceremony of prostration of paying respect might have been allowed at the time of previous prophets, but with the advent of the complete and final revelation prostration before anyone other than Allah is a grave sin strictly prohibited.”
(7) Please kindly visit the web-site: http://www.narayanaconsciousness.net and go to the section that deals with Scriptural Proofs regarding Kalki Avatar. You will be greatly edified.
Thanks for your comment and wish sincerely that you find out the whole truth before it is too late. The Kyamat is coming soon.
Well yes Qayamat is near and therefore I have, for you, the best admonition I could find. Hope you pay heed to it.
DIRE WARNING:
Say: “Who is it that sustains you (in life) from the sky and from the earth? Or who is it that has power over hearing and sight? And who is it that brings out the living from the dead and the dead from the living? And who is it that rules and regulates all affairs?” They will soon say “Allah.” Say “Will ye not then show piety (to Him)?”
Such is Allah your real Cherisher and Sustainer: apart from Truth what (remains) but error? How then are ye turned
away?
Thus is the Word of thy Lord proved true against those who rebel: verily they will not believe.
Say: “Of your `partners’ can any originate creation and repeat it?” Say: “It is Allah Who originates Creation and
repeats it: then how are ye deluded away (from the truth)?”
Say: “Of your `partners’ is there any that can give any guidance towards Truth?” Say: “It is Allah Who gives
guidance towards Truth. Is then He Who gives guidance to Truth more worthy to be followed or he who finds not
guidance (himself) unless he is guided? What then is the matter with you? How judge ye?”
But most of them follow nothing but fancy: truly fancy can be of no avail against Truth. Verily Allah is well aware of all that they do. (Holy Qur’an 10:31-36)
AND
Behold! verily to Allah belong all creatures in the heavens and on earth. What do they follow who worship as His
“partners” other than Allah? They follow nothing but fancy and they do nothing but lie. (Holy Qur’an 10:66)
Emphasis wherever found is mine.
Through this paper I seek Allah to increase my knowledge and make me brave.
By: Question Mark
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9 Responses to “VALID VALID EXPLANATION TO WWW.NARAYANACONSCIOUSNESS.NET”
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Greetings!
Saw your comments on your blog only yesterday.
Thought I would post a comment in a spirit of brotherhood and true love.
(1) You had mentioned in a previous article that Kalki Maha Avatar was Mohammad Nabi (pbuh). I merely mentioned a few prophecies about Kalki Maha Avatar which Mohammad Nabi never fulfilled which goes to prove that he is not Kalki Maha Avatar. That was my point.
(2) You mention that prostrating now at the feet of anyone would be taboo in the light of the latest revelation from Allah through prophet Mohammad (pbuh). You went on in your argument to prove that in the interim period prostration meant only respect and cited examples. If the latest revelaton from Allah tells that prostration at the feet of anyone is wrong (you mention this in your comment) and should not be done, do you presume to say that this revelation would be lacking at the time when the angels were asked to prostrate before Adam? Remember! This order came from none other than the Almighty Allah. This line of argument would go to prove that you are ascribing ignorance to Allah. The Koran says Allah is All-Wise. I believe that Allah the Almighty is not in ignorance at anytime. Humans may fail and fall at the feet of anyone and transgress. If falling at the feet is not a trangression why would Allah’s latest revelation through prophet Mohammad (pbuh) forbid this?
(3) Did Allah anywhere in the Koran say that He does not opt to or wish to come in human form? Without this certainity please do not speak on behalf of Almighty Allah.
(4) Portions from Hadiths are quoted by you to prove a cardinal doctrine. Please quote from the Koran. I do not deny the veracity of the Hadiths. There are true ones as well as spurious ones. You yourself know this. If any portion in the Hadith does not find its proof in the Koran or goes against the teachings of the Koran it must be kept aside. This is the view of all Muslim Scholars. Would you place the Hadiths at a higher level than the Glorious Koran?
(5) You quote many Hindu Scriptures to prove the formless aspect of God. We don’t deny this. There are also many Sruthis which prove that God does have a form. What do you say to this? The former revelation does not negate the latter revelation. Both are true.
(6) I believe The Holy Koran to be the revelation of Allah. I love the Koran and believe all its teachings. Please quote from the Koran in future and the Hadiths only if their teachings coincide with the Koran. You quote from the Koran and rightly say that he has no ‘likeness’ to him. This means that nobody can be equal to Allah or greater than Allah. This does not mean that Allah cannot come in a form if he chooses to. If he does so, would you say this is other than Allah. You must prove from the Koran that Allah does not have a form.
(7) In the tail end of your comment you became angry. You told about those who ascribe partners to Allah quoting from the Koran. I don’t ascribe any partners to Allah and so those comments don’t in anyway intimidate me.
Your Loving Friend,
Allah’s Humble Servant
1. In the first place you did not provide any prophecy proving otherwise.
2.To sum up your argument: Earlier prostration was permissible, however, it was allowed in the last revelation!
Brother, the answer to this can be multifaceted. They are as follows:
1. Prostration to Adam was an injunction given to angels NOT humans. May be Allah in His omniscience knew that angels are not going to misunderstand his command. They would not misinterpret prostration from reverence to worship. Because Quran is replete of verses where it says that none is worthy of worship than Allah. So, Allah would have never ordained prostration if prostration would have meant an act of worship. Allah knows best. If this answer is unsatisfactory then kindly read further.
2. Allah substitutes with something better: “None of Our revelations do We abrogate or cause to be forgotten but We substitute something better or similar; knowest thou not that Allah hath power over all things?” (2:106)
Here it should be noted Allah is all powerful to substitute His decrees with something better or similar depending upon the community of the time and other factors which Allah knows best of. FURTHERMORE,
“When We substitute one revelation for another and Allah knows best what He reveals (in stages) they say “Thou art but a forger”: but most of them understand not.” (16:101)
As above, it should be noted here that Allah’s revelations come in stages. But natural a revelation might be substituted with something better depending upon the need for guidance, nevertheless, “most of them understand not”.
3.With my limited knowledge of Qur’an I do not think Allah has anywhere said that He would not come in human form. Nevertheless, your argument, for me, does not has any weight age because it is akin you asking me “Did Allah anywhere say in Koran that He does not opt to steal or rob?” I do not think that anyone would be able to find such a statement in Qur’an but one would be able to deduce such information from Qur’anic teachings.
I would want you to consider once again, “NO VISION CAN GRASP HIM but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension yet is acquainted with all things.” (Holy Quran 6:103) If Allah was to take human form in this world then what is the import of the Qur’anic phrase “NO VISION CAN GRASP HIM…”
4.I apologize but you have committed a gross error. Please note that in Islam the authority of Qur’an and AUTHENTIC OR AGREEABLE Hadith are the same. However, Qur’an has a degree over Hadiths in holiness. As far as spurious Hadiths are concerned, well yes then you correctly mentioned there are such Hadiths around, but there are counterfeit Qur’anic verses also touted by ignorant such as Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani, for instance. For another instance I might name you Rashad Khalifa. What I want to say that these things make no argument because we have the Quran which was once with Mohammad, peace be upon him, and we have the Hadiths which were said exactly by the prophet, peace be upon him. Dump the spurious ones,Islam has got nothing to do with them.
5.You would have to quote me which shruti you are talking about. May be interpretation has got a problem in it. But if it does say that God has got a form then you would have to explain me how this is not a contradiction. How “Both are true”.
6.This is a general mistake committed by many. People do not understand what Muslims mean when they say Allah has got no “likeness”. Nobody is equal to Allah in whatever aspect human brain can think of. You may say that Allah can come in human form, as in Jesus (peace be upon him) or Rama, however, both these mighty men had hands, for instance. How would have a God incarnate with his hands making no likeness with millions around. Jesus’s and Rama’s hand were as similar to mine or yours.
7.Even many so called Muslims say that they do not ascribe partners to Allah but in reality they do, may be indirectly. I would personally request you to give serious thoughts to “Tawheed” or Islamic monotheism. It’s a personal request. Things are not as they appear. I may help you in this.
1.Brother I humbly disagree with you. Because I do not think that every scripture has been corrupted. Or that every scripture has it’s interpolations extrapolations etc. You cannot paint Qur’an with the same brush. Qur’an has been totally preserved as it was revealed to prophet Mohammad, peace be upon him. As Allah challenges in His Book:
“Do not they consider it (Qur’an) with care; had it been from any besides Allah there would have been many contradictions therein”
You rightly wrote that the “Author of the Scriptures must come on the scene and tell us what has been added and what has been subtracted and what has been perverted.” I am asking you did not this happen?
It happened in Qur’an. The Author of all the previous scriptures did correct earlier manhandling of the scriptures. It did rectify the biblical claim that Jesus is God, for one instance out of many.
2.(2) The Koran asks us to believe all the past Scriptures given to Moses, David, Jesus etc., Who told you that they are lost and only fragments remain? Some Hadiths? There are many spurious Hadiths. (QM: Kindly refer again to answer number 4)The Muslim Scholars say so. Show from the Koran that all the previous scriptures are no longer in existence. (QM: This is a misrepresented notion. The Qur’anic claim is that some were lost, some tampered, some invented. Making a mess of everything. For instance,2:79(invention), 25:18(lost, 5:13,14 (lost and tampering)) The Koran cannot ask us to believe something that does not exist. (QM: Qur’an, for me, wants us to believe that revelation were given to earlier prophets which with a warning that they cannot be relied upon now as they have played around with. So we believe in David and that a revelation was given to him. We believe in David’s revelations through Quran and NOT through BIBLE. Peace be upon David) All the previous Scriptures exist. The people who respect only the Koran want to demean all the other Scriptures. (QM:This is your personal opinion. For the scholars of, let us say Bible, they have absolutely no problem in accepting that the Bible has been corrupted, if we consider Bible to be revealed to earlier prophets)So they are bringing about this rigmarole.
sincerely,
Q.M
Greetings!
When some questions were asked by me you got angry and did some tech thing to the blog which made only your posts to appear and mine not to appear. This is not fair. You should not block my comments. If you promise this I will proceed. I have the answers for all your questions.
Allah’s Humble Servant,
L.Chandrasekar
P.S.
I tried posting my comments but your tech-savvy skills have blocked them. I hope this request of mine is granted by you. Give us a fair chance to give our comments. Only then we can benefit each other. We must learn to be fair in everything.
Greetings!
I posted my comments on “Paul’s Coat”
It did not appear.
I was very disappointed that people are so childish that they do not even want to hear what the other side thinks about the same subject. They do not want to know the truth. Either they want to prove that the other man is wrong or if this is not possible they black him out. They only want to establish their own views. They are so engrossed in these tactics that they fail to see the truth in the other man’s claims.
Now as my comment has appeared it seems that the portal has been opened temporarily.
Hope it stays this way. Thank you.
Allah’s Humble Servant,
L.Chandrasekar
I donot know your comments were not posted. As for me, I have not done anything to block your comments. Your allegation is baseless. I promise you that I have not blocked any of your comments, believe me. This is all I can say. You may believe if you want. Try posting again. If the problem persists then kindly post the same comment in my some other paper. Hope it would work that way.
sincerely,
Q.M.
Thanks for clearing my doubt.
I tried more than 30 times to post my comments and failed.
Hence the assumption that it had been prevented on purpose.
As you say that you are not responsible, I believe you.
It must have been due to other reasons which is at present indecipherable.
Some technical difficulties on the site or something else.
Thanks for explaining. Inshah Allah, I will continue to post my comments.
Yours truly,
Allah’s Humble Servant,
L.Chandrasekar
Greetings!
Thanks for informing me covertly that you blocked my posts.
We do this only when we are not sure of our foundations.
Please refer to the following prophecy of Veda Vyasa. The exact quotation is given with Canto, Chapter and Verses. You can refer to any translation of this book and you will find the same matter.
PROPHECY OF VEDA VYASA ON PROPHET MOHAMAD
The other startling prophecy that Veda Vyasa has made is about Mohamad, the founder of Muslim Dharma. Veda Vyasa clearly tells that the spirit of Mohamad confesses to Kalidasa that he has founded his religion by the will of God to draw away the worldly people from the hidden truth of God and that his religion is PAISHAACCHA DHARMA, the religion of five senses and violence. This is not our view but what is recorded in Bhavishya Purana.
B H A V I S H Y A M A H A P U R A N A M
PRATISARGA PARVAM
Canto III, Chapter 2
The Pratisarga Parvam of Bhavishya Mahapuranam is further subdivided into four cantos which in turn contains number of chapters consisting of innumerable Slokas or hymns.
(Canto III, Chapter 2)
1: Thus spake Sutha: There will be ten kings in the line of Shalivahana. They will rule for about 500 years.
2: The tenth king in that line will be Bhojaraja (Who was called as Abhinava Vikramaditya). Seeing that his kingdom has become very small, he will proceed to fight and win back his kingdom.
3: Along with 10,000 armymen and Kalidasa, etc., he will proceed and will pass over River Sindhu (Indus).
4: He will win Gandharas (Iran, Afganistan, etc,), Mlecchas (Arabians, Jews) Kashmir, etc.
5: At this juncture he will come across with a Priest of Mlecchas, MAHAMADA (Mahamada means in Sanskrit, one who is highly proud; this man is Mohamad, the founder of Musalman religion).
6: The king Bhojaraja worships the Lord Hara in his heart only.
7: Then God speaks to him thus: The whole country has become full of Mlecchas and
12: Is devoid of Aryadharma, Mahamada (Mohamad) has become famous because of his violent works using arms.
13: Go back to your country; otherwise this person will try to invade India too by his violent tricks. But by my blessings you shall be cleansed.
14: Therefore the king will return to his land. But Muhamada (Mohammad) will come to the border of River Sindu (Indus).
15: That expert of Maya (Mesmerism) induces the mind of the king and will say thus: O King, your god has become my disciple and my servant. I challenge you to eat the food that I have left over and then see yourself. By hearing thus the king will wonder at him (by his magic)
18: By seeing the pitiable condition of the king, Kali Dasa will reply Mahamada thus: By your magic you have made all this trick to cheat the king.
19: I will defeat this evil man and his wicked religion. Thus saying the brahman started praying the Name of Shriman (Narayana).
20: By praying for ten thousand times and by performing sacrifice by one tenth part of that power.
21: Then his disciples will be afraid and will return to their own country and carrying the ashes of their priest (Mohamad) they will come to Madahinam (Medina).
22: They will establish Medina and say thus that going to Medina is equal to all pilgrimage.
23: In the night the ghost of Mohamad will appear to Bhojaraja and say thus:
24: Aryadharma (Supreme Sacrifice) is the best of all dharmas. But I do all this by the command of Isha (The Lord), this religion of violence, satisfying Five senses.
25: My people will be those whose privy parts are cut (circumcision), devoid of tufts (their heads shaven) the loud talkers, eaters of every sort.
26: Without hesitation my people will eat the animals (cows).
27: Their culture will be called as Musalmanism and the caste Musalamans will become the enemies of the Dharma (The Righteousness of God). Thus the religion of violence will be established by me.
28: Then Sanskrit will be established in three Varnas.
29: Prakrit will be the language of Shudras. He will rule for 50 years and will then die. He will establish his kingdom in the central part of Aryadesham (Ujjain is in Madhya Pradesh).
31: The Aryas will settle there till Vindhyas, from wherein the Inter-mixture of caste will take place. In Sindudesha, men will become Muslims (The present Pakistan; How true is the prophecy of Vyasa !!!)
32: In other countries and islands, the religion of ISHA MASSEEHA, (JESUS THE MESSIAH) will establish as KINGDOM OF HEAVEN (SEE HOW TRUE THE PROPHECY OF VEDA VYASA !!!)
This chapter is very important because this prophecy sets right the authenticity of Mohamad and his religion. But the same Vyasa prophesies about Jesus and His Kingdom being spread all over the world. This clearly establishes Vyasa as World Prophet without any doubt.
Yours truly,
Allah’s Humble Servant,
L.Chandrasekar
I underwent a very scary experience recently.
One fine morning as I woke up from Bed, and stepped on earth… very strong smell of musk & camphor came out of my body & breath. This however did not happen again, but left me with some mystic abilities…
Images of Gods appearing all over the house,
and my wife appearing as various images of shakti in recurrent dream (durga, lakshmi, kaali etc..) morphing into each other…. left me with no other option, except forcing me to touch her feet every now & then…. pedicure included…
and some abilities to control elements (rain, clouds & wind), happened to surface…. just left me scared…
I am just an electronic technician by trade…. and have gone back to my old work… it took me few weeks to recover…
Now I do not tinker around much with the heavens… however, the images of the saints & gods of the past, some good saints still rolling on the ground, clouds & the sunshine, moonshine carries some little essence for me… which I feel…. I can sense…
WHAT WAS IT, if anyone could tell ? thanks for the answers..
Thank you… May GOD also be so kind & so very near to you…. at all times & always…
Bye …. Bye..
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Then I looked for the answers within, as I had kept the whole thing a secret… and…. and then the inner voice guided me…
That every kid in human form is capable of experiencing… supernatural stuff… like the re-incarnation stuff, I experienced… I think, It has left me with sweet memories of the GOD & Heavens…
We do have educated people now… the books are all there for anyone to read & mbibe those values in their personal life…
they can be anything they desire, you just have to learn to live like… our creator & GOD for a while…